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	<title>Comments on: Michael Vick Paid His Debt &#8211; MOVE ON!</title>
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		<title>By: SeattleFree Vick</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vick has continually proven he has NOT moved on. He is addicted to greed, bullying, inhumane torture of life other than his own. It is only a small bit of time before he turns on humans as he did on the Victory puppies and dogs. He is but one of the many criminals that will return to prison. The recidivism rates in the USA support this. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vick has continually proven he has NOT moved on. He is addicted to greed, bullying, inhumane torture of life other than his own. It is only a small bit of time before he turns on humans as he did on the Victory puppies and dogs. He is but one of the many criminals that will return to prison. The recidivism rates in the USA support this. </p>
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		<title>By: Adrasteia</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Vick never served a day in prison for abusing and killing dogs. He served time for gambling. I&#039;m sure he&#039;s sorry he financed dog fighting but as far as fighting and killing dogs? Not so much.  
 
Of course he paid his legal debt to society for gambling. However, has Nike offered O.J. Simpson a contract? Simpson was a great athlete and unlike Vick, he was never convicted of a federal offense. So what is the difference between the two? One denies killing anyone and one admits he shot, hung, drowned, electrocuted, and beat dogs to death. One repels us and one is celebrated by us.  
 
How many of you think O.J. Simpson deserves redemption for his crimes? Were he offered a contract by Nike or named Sportsman of the Millenium, the outcry would be swift and loud. 
 
The behaviors Vick displayed are sociopathic. They are dangerous. And he has never once expressed any remorse over the fate of the dogs he tortured. Their lives were torture and their deaths were not merciful releases.  
 
One only needs a modicum of empathy to understand the horrific lives and deaths of the Vick dogs. Treated viciously to make them vicious. Starved. Forced exercise. Fighting that shredded their skin and broke their bones. This, Vick admits, was done for fun. 
 
And when the dog&#039;s viciousness did meet Vick&#039;s expectations? A humane death was not in the cards.  
 
Imagine how long it takes a fighting dog whose neck is solidly muscled to hang to death. Could you watch while the dog struggled, its feet desperately looking for some solid ground and blood ran from its mouth and its eyes bulged? Vick did.  
 
Could you hold a struggling animal, restraining its legs while you plunged its head in bucket and let it slowly drown to death? Vick did.  
 
Could laugh or talk sports while a dog was hooked to a car battery and thrown in water to die in horrendous pain and fear? Vick did. 
 
Could you take a dog who didn&#039;t die fast enough and bodily slam it to the ground over and over with such force its skull cracked and its back broke? Vick did.  
 
These were not humane euthanasias done clinically. These deaths were personal, hands-on, killings and that is pathological. That is killing because killing is fun. 
 
If you don&#039;t find something horrific in celebrating a man who took perverse pleasure in killing an animal for sport and fun then you are less than human. Vick has his second chance, his murdered dogs do not. Vick has a paycheck, a wife, children. 35 dogs never felt the kindness of human touch. Vick has his second chance but he is not a role model or someone to be admired and emulated.  
 
One may be able to pay their legal debt to society but their moral debt to humanity never ends. Never.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Vick never served a day in prison for abusing and killing dogs. He served time for gambling. I&#039;m sure he&#039;s sorry he financed dog fighting but as far as fighting and killing dogs? Not so much.  </p>
<p>Of course he paid his legal debt to society for gambling. However, has Nike offered O.J. Simpson a contract? Simpson was a great athlete and unlike Vick, he was never convicted of a federal offense. So what is the difference between the two? One denies killing anyone and one admits he shot, hung, drowned, electrocuted, and beat dogs to death. One repels us and one is celebrated by us.  </p>
<p>How many of you think O.J. Simpson deserves redemption for his crimes? Were he offered a contract by Nike or named Sportsman of the Millenium, the outcry would be swift and loud. </p>
<p>The behaviors Vick displayed are sociopathic. They are dangerous. And he has never once expressed any remorse over the fate of the dogs he tortured. Their lives were torture and their deaths were not merciful releases.  </p>
<p>One only needs a modicum of empathy to understand the horrific lives and deaths of the Vick dogs. Treated viciously to make them vicious. Starved. Forced exercise. Fighting that shredded their skin and broke their bones. This, Vick admits, was done for fun. </p>
<p>And when the dog&#039;s viciousness did meet Vick&#039;s expectations? A humane death was not in the cards.  </p>
<p>Imagine how long it takes a fighting dog whose neck is solidly muscled to hang to death. Could you watch while the dog struggled, its feet desperately looking for some solid ground and blood ran from its mouth and its eyes bulged? Vick did.  </p>
<p>Could you hold a struggling animal, restraining its legs while you plunged its head in bucket and let it slowly drown to death? Vick did.  </p>
<p>Could laugh or talk sports while a dog was hooked to a car battery and thrown in water to die in horrendous pain and fear? Vick did. </p>
<p>Could you take a dog who didn&#039;t die fast enough and bodily slam it to the ground over and over with such force its skull cracked and its back broke? Vick did.  </p>
<p>These were not humane euthanasias done clinically. These deaths were personal, hands-on, killings and that is pathological. That is killing because killing is fun. </p>
<p>If you don&#039;t find something horrific in celebrating a man who took perverse pleasure in killing an animal for sport and fun then you are less than human. Vick has his second chance, his murdered dogs do not. Vick has a paycheck, a wife, children. 35 dogs never felt the kindness of human touch. Vick has his second chance but he is not a role model or someone to be admired and emulated.  </p>
<p>One may be able to pay their legal debt to society but their moral debt to humanity never ends. Never.  </p>
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		<title>By: Maggi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He may have done his prison time. But he is not reformed or rehabilitated, if he was he would repent publicly for the pain and suffering he caused to these animals. I have no problem with him playing football, it is his job and everyone deserves work, though I will not watch him play. I have a problem with the fact that people still hero worship a man with such psychopathic behaviour traits. I have a problem with companies that sponsor him and that promote him as a &quot;comeback kid&quot;. That&#039;s what I have a problem with. As to comparing him with other players who have done wrong, they should ALL be prosecuted within the limits of the law, regardless of their fame. It&#039;s not dogs OR humans, it&#039;s both. To throw that into the discussion is to throw a strawman argument because you don&#039;t have a better one available. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He may have done his prison time. But he is not reformed or rehabilitated, if he was he would repent publicly for the pain and suffering he caused to these animals. I have no problem with him playing football, it is his job and everyone deserves work, though I will not watch him play. I have a problem with the fact that people still hero worship a man with such psychopathic behaviour traits. I have a problem with companies that sponsor him and that promote him as a &quot;comeback kid&quot;. That&#039;s what I have a problem with. As to comparing him with other players who have done wrong, they should ALL be prosecuted within the limits of the law, regardless of their fame. It&#039;s not dogs OR humans, it&#039;s both. To throw that into the discussion is to throw a strawman argument because you don&#039;t have a better one available. </p>
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		<title>By: CeliaSue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CeliaSue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Super Dave, 
 
if you did any research at all, like read the court documents and/or the Lost Dogs book by sports illustrator senior editor Jim Gorant, you would know all this, but clearly you have not, so here goes... 
 
  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/when-you-get-over-casey-ill-get-over-mikey/10150332476870359&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/w...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Today should be a marvelous day for all Michael Vick supporters everywhere.  Once again a pseudo-celebrity is being released from prison, having completed her court assigned incarceration for a violent crime.  Well, let me rephrase that - completing their sentence for a trivial crime associated with their alleged involvement in a violent crime.  Casey Anthony served two and a half years for &quot;providing false statements to investigators&quot; and Vick served one and a half years for &quot;promoting interstate gambling.&quot;  Anthony COULD have spent the rest of her life - a life that MAY have been shortened by the State - in prison, and Vick COULD have spent upwards of six decades in state prison.  But the courts have spoken, sentences have been served, and both are free to do as they please. They have served their time, so it&#039;s time to just get over it.  At least that&#039;s how the sentiment goes for Vick... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super Dave, </p>
<p>if you did any research at all, like read the court documents and/or the Lost Dogs book by sports illustrator senior editor Jim Gorant, you would know all this, but clearly you have not, so here goes&#8230; </p>
<p>  <a href="https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/when-you-get-over-casey-ill-get-over-mikey/10150332476870359" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/w&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>Today should be a marvelous day for all Michael Vick supporters everywhere.  Once again a pseudo-celebrity is being released from prison, having completed her court assigned incarceration for a violent crime.  Well, let me rephrase that &#8211; completing their sentence for a trivial crime associated with their alleged involvement in a violent crime.  Casey Anthony served two and a half years for &quot;providing false statements to investigators&quot; and Vick served one and a half years for &quot;promoting interstate gambling.&quot;  Anthony COULD have spent the rest of her life &#8211; a life that MAY have been shortened by the State &#8211; in prison, and Vick COULD have spent upwards of six decades in state prison.  But the courts have spoken, sentences have been served, and both are free to do as they please. They have served their time, so it&#039;s time to just get over it.  At least that&#039;s how the sentiment goes for Vick&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: CeliaSue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CeliaSue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suzi q, I cannot stand PETA... they are NOT NOT NOT animal lovers...  
 
if you did any research at all, like read the court documents and/or the Lost Dogs book by sports illustrator senior editor Jim Gorant, you would know all this, but clearly you have not, so here goes... 
 
i will move on when vick is actually charged with animal cruelty and dog fighting as he was not, which means he would be in jail for at least 65 years, when he actually meets with the good people who cleaned up his mess and have taken loving care of the dogs that were his that he abused and tortured, and when he gives at least $50 million to a pit bull shelter/rescue, no kill facility.  oh yeah, a REAL apology to the dogs and to their adopters would be good, too. so far all I&#039;ve heard him say is that he is sorry he got caught and he wishes his sentence was shorter and that he does not care about the dogs.  
 
I also agree with this guy... who outlines the case and talks about the corrupt prosecutor in the Vick case and compares the evidence in the Anthony case (non-existent) and in the Vick case (overwhelming)...  
  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/when-you-get-over-casey-ill-get-over-mikey/10150332476870359&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/w...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Today should be a marvelous day for all Michael Vick supporters everywhere.&#160; Once again a pseudo-celebrity is being released from prison, having completed her court assigned incarceration for a violent crime.&#160; Well, let me rephrase that - completing their sentence for a trivial crime associated with their alleged involvement in a violent crime.&#160; Casey Anthony served two and a half years for &quot;providing false statements to investigators&quot; and Vick served one and a half years for &quot;promoting interstate gambling.&quot;&#160; Anthony COULD have spent the rest of her life - a life that MAY have been shortened by the State - in prison, and Vick COULD have spent upwards of six decades in state prison.&#160; But the courts have spoken, sentences have been served, and both are free to do as they please. They have served their time, so it&#039;s time to just get over it.&#160; At least that&#039;s how the sentiment goes for Vick... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzi q, I cannot stand PETA&#8230; they are NOT NOT NOT animal lovers&#8230;  </p>
<p>if you did any research at all, like read the court documents and/or the Lost Dogs book by sports illustrator senior editor Jim Gorant, you would know all this, but clearly you have not, so here goes&#8230; </p>
<p>i will move on when vick is actually charged with animal cruelty and dog fighting as he was not, which means he would be in jail for at least 65 years, when he actually meets with the good people who cleaned up his mess and have taken loving care of the dogs that were his that he abused and tortured, and when he gives at least $50 million to a pit bull shelter/rescue, no kill facility.  oh yeah, a REAL apology to the dogs and to their adopters would be good, too. so far all I&#039;ve heard him say is that he is sorry he got caught and he wishes his sentence was shorter and that he does not care about the dogs.  </p>
<p>I also agree with this guy&#8230; who outlines the case and talks about the corrupt prosecutor in the Vick case and compares the evidence in the Anthony case (non-existent) and in the Vick case (overwhelming)&#8230;<br />
  <a href="https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/when-you-get-over-casey-ill-get-over-mikey/10150332476870359" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/notes/jamie-fitzgerald/w&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>Today should be a marvelous day for all Michael Vick supporters everywhere.&nbsp; Once again a pseudo-celebrity is being released from prison, having completed her court assigned incarceration for a violent crime.&nbsp; Well, let me rephrase that &#8211; completing their sentence for a trivial crime associated with their alleged involvement in a violent crime.&nbsp; Casey Anthony served two and a half years for &quot;providing false statements to investigators&quot; and Vick served one and a half years for &quot;promoting interstate gambling.&quot;&nbsp; Anthony COULD have spent the rest of her life &#8211; a life that MAY have been shortened by the State &#8211; in prison, and Vick COULD have spent upwards of six decades in state prison.&nbsp; But the courts have spoken, sentences have been served, and both are free to do as they please. They have served their time, so it&#039;s time to just get over it.&nbsp; At least that&#039;s how the sentiment goes for Vick&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: skeptical</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skeptical]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Suzi, I&#039;m NOT a member of PETA, I despise them. But I did my homework on this, you need to do yours. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Suzi, I&#039;m NOT a member of PETA, I despise them. But I did my homework on this, you need to do yours. </p>
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		<title>By: skeptical</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skeptical]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. No contrition...no redemption. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. No contrition&#8230;no redemption. </p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;He did his time now let him get back to work&quot;...uhm What? for racketeering perhaps but certainly not for the brutal torture and killing of those innocent dogs. I can just imagine that he is laughing all the way to the bank, mocking the poor fools who believe in him. In regards to  &quot;....for the public to participate in the &#8220;outrage&#8221; is silly if not un-American&quot;...so are we to assume that you think what he did was &quot;silly&quot; ? and we are &quot;un-American&quot; for caring? Wow under what rock did you crawl out from, not one on American soil surely. Before you make such a ridiculous statement, you should really be better informed of the FACTS. Go read &quot;The Lost Dog&quot; and if that doesn&#039;t touch your soul in some way, well then there is something seriously wrong with you. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;He did his time now let him get back to work&quot;&#8230;uhm What? for racketeering perhaps but certainly not for the brutal torture and killing of those innocent dogs. I can just imagine that he is laughing all the way to the bank, mocking the poor fools who believe in him. In regards to  &quot;&#8230;.for the public to participate in the &ldquo;outrage&rdquo; is silly if not un-American&quot;&#8230;so are we to assume that you think what he did was &quot;silly&quot; ? and we are &quot;un-American&quot; for caring? Wow under what rock did you crawl out from, not one on American soil surely. Before you make such a ridiculous statement, you should really be better informed of the FACTS. Go read &quot;The Lost Dog&quot; and if that doesn&#039;t touch your soul in some way, well then there is something seriously wrong with you. </p>
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		<title>By: skeptical</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skeptical]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People who abuse animals often go on to abuse children, wives, the elderly. Just because the dogs can&#039;t talk or press charges...oh never mind. You&#039;re just another piece of sub-human garbage. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who abuse animals often go on to abuse children, wives, the elderly. Just because the dogs can&#039;t talk or press charges&#8230;oh never mind. You&#039;re just another piece of sub-human garbage. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Daniels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say Michael Vick pays his debt in full, when he serves a chew toy for a pack of rabid wild wolves, while his hands and feet are fully restrained and he has no way to to escape! The same way he treated those dogs, by his own admission! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say Michael Vick pays his debt in full, when he serves a chew toy for a pack of rabid wild wolves, while his hands and feet are fully restrained and he has no way to to escape! The same way he treated those dogs, by his own admission! </p>
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