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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I gotta say, you guys have too much time on your hands (but, then again, I&#039;m wasting time here myself). The people have voted and, like it or not, more people voted for Barack Hussein Obama than John Sidney Mccain. I, for one, don&#039;t like it but will have to move on from here. There are just a few points I need to make before i finish my lunch break (at the $50,000 a year job I worked towards for the last 15 years and finally earned. I started at $7.25 an hour):

Minimum wage is just that: MINIMUM WAGE for unskilled labor, and not meant for a father who actually takes care of his responsibilities to be able to have as a sole source of income. For a while now I have had one full-time job and two part-time jobs, that is what I have to do in order to keep my wife and two kids in relative comfort. The reason some jobs pay so little is because if the guy doing it quits, the employer can grab the next guy walking by and he will be able to do it just as well. I have learned, though working my way up from the bottom, enough that I earn more. The reason I earn more is solely due to my knowledge in my chosen field. The new leaning towards &quot;Fairness&quot; in the marketplace over the last decade implies you shouldn&#039;t have to work your way up as I did, you just deserve better. What a crock. It is child-like and irrational to believe something is deserved merely because it is wanted. 

The &quot;stimulus checks&quot; of last year were a ridiculous idea and did no good for the economy whatsoever. Did I cash mine? Hell, yes I did, and I applied it directly to outstanding bills: It stimulated nothing. We are having to borrow money from other countries to back these checks and will eventually have to pay them back. Even having seen that they did not have the intended impact on the economy; the fools in Washington are considering doing it again. 

The numbers bantered about as the lower limit to Barack&#039;s new welfare program have been as low as 120K and as high as 250K depending on whom is being spoken to, him or one of his lackeys. (Ronald Reagan&#039;s) Trickle down economics does work. No matter how many times this is proven, some fools think this just can&#039;t be true; It was the root of the prosperity during his administration, Bill Gates was the reason for the prosperity during the Clinton administration, and informed TAX CUTS was what sped recovery and stemmed off the major market crash for so long after 9/11. The market is tanking now because of improper senate meddling in mortgage practices forcing banks to give a set percentage of their loans to high risk applicants and the greed of the banks. In play is also that business&#039; see that a socialist is coming to power and that&#039;s not good for profits. 

Too many people are using the phrase tax cuts when a majority of the people being impacted have paid no taxes in the first place. That is not a &quot;tax cut&quot;, it&#039;s a new welfare entitlement.

If you think your taxes are high now (for those of us paying taxes), just wait until they try to recoup some of the money they are giving away for these new entitlements and the universal health care I see looming over the horizon.


As far as &quot;universal health care&quot; is concerned, all you have to do is look at Europe and see that that is a failed experiment. Do we really want the government, who has screwed up so many other things that we let them interfere in, put in charge of our physical well being? Not me.

Doc Bluto seems to be the most informed here and Jon needs to take a laxative (and use the head-time to do a little research reading in economics). And by the way Jon, unless you&#039;re fooling even yourself, you know what put Barack in the 50% plus category: newly registered, excited, uninformed voters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say, you guys have too much time on your hands (but, then again, I&#8217;m wasting time here myself). The people have voted and, like it or not, more people voted for Barack Hussein Obama than John Sidney Mccain. I, for one, don&#8217;t like it but will have to move on from here. There are just a few points I need to make before i finish my lunch break (at the $50,000 a year job I worked towards for the last 15 years and finally earned. I started at $7.25 an hour):</p>
<p>Minimum wage is just that: MINIMUM WAGE for unskilled labor, and not meant for a father who actually takes care of his responsibilities to be able to have as a sole source of income. For a while now I have had one full-time job and two part-time jobs, that is what I have to do in order to keep my wife and two kids in relative comfort. The reason some jobs pay so little is because if the guy doing it quits, the employer can grab the next guy walking by and he will be able to do it just as well. I have learned, though working my way up from the bottom, enough that I earn more. The reason I earn more is solely due to my knowledge in my chosen field. The new leaning towards &#8220;Fairness&#8221; in the marketplace over the last decade implies you shouldn&#8217;t have to work your way up as I did, you just deserve better. What a crock. It is child-like and irrational to believe something is deserved merely because it is wanted. </p>
<p>The &#8220;stimulus checks&#8221; of last year were a ridiculous idea and did no good for the economy whatsoever. Did I cash mine? Hell, yes I did, and I applied it directly to outstanding bills: It stimulated nothing. We are having to borrow money from other countries to back these checks and will eventually have to pay them back. Even having seen that they did not have the intended impact on the economy; the fools in Washington are considering doing it again. </p>
<p>The numbers bantered about as the lower limit to Barack&#8217;s new welfare program have been as low as 120K and as high as 250K depending on whom is being spoken to, him or one of his lackeys. (Ronald Reagan&#8217;s) Trickle down economics does work. No matter how many times this is proven, some fools think this just can&#8217;t be true; It was the root of the prosperity during his administration, Bill Gates was the reason for the prosperity during the Clinton administration, and informed TAX CUTS was what sped recovery and stemmed off the major market crash for so long after 9/11. The market is tanking now because of improper senate meddling in mortgage practices forcing banks to give a set percentage of their loans to high risk applicants and the greed of the banks. In play is also that business&#8217; see that a socialist is coming to power and that&#8217;s not good for profits. </p>
<p>Too many people are using the phrase tax cuts when a majority of the people being impacted have paid no taxes in the first place. That is not a &#8220;tax cut&#8221;, it&#8217;s a new welfare entitlement.</p>
<p>If you think your taxes are high now (for those of us paying taxes), just wait until they try to recoup some of the money they are giving away for these new entitlements and the universal health care I see looming over the horizon.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;universal health care&#8221; is concerned, all you have to do is look at Europe and see that that is a failed experiment. Do we really want the government, who has screwed up so many other things that we let them interfere in, put in charge of our physical well being? Not me.</p>
<p>Doc Bluto seems to be the most informed here and Jon needs to take a laxative (and use the head-time to do a little research reading in economics). And by the way Jon, unless you&#8217;re fooling even yourself, you know what put Barack in the 50% plus category: newly registered, excited, uninformed voters.</p>
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		<title>By: COED MagazineAriadne Artiles and The Week That Was…Nov 3rd-Nov 7th &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[COED MagazineAriadne Artiles and The Week That Was…Nov 3rd-Nov 7th &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Doctor Bluto</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, teachers know how much they&#039;re going to get paid when they decide to go that route for a career.   
 
Secondly, don&#039;t give me this crap about CEOs making 300k is unfair.  In a large corporation thousands of people depend on that CEO to make sure there is a job there for them when they wake up each morning.  Not only the employees, but the investors as well.  Do me a favor, take an economics class and then tell me that the government redistributing wealth is a good idea.   
 
Jon, your post about schooling is right along the lines of what I was talking about before.  God forbid that someone has to WORK HARD to get what they want out of life.  You want the American Dream, but are unwilling to put forth the required effort to attain it.  Stop being lazy and go improve yourself is what you should do.  Don&#039;t complain because someone has to study hard to make good grades.  You bring up ivy league schools in your post too.  They CAN make it to ivy league schools, that isn&#039;t enough though...they shouldn&#039;t have to work hard there... 
 
Look man, your logic is flawed in that you want everyone to have everything they want without having to work for it.  It&#039;s not that simple and it shouldn&#039;t be.  If you&#039;re handed something chances are good you won&#039;t appreciate it as much as if you worked for it.  For me, the feeling of accomplishment when I achieve a goal is almost as good as the goal itself.  It is unfortunate, but most of the people have forgotten that.  Not to mention giving people something for nothing just makes them depend more on the system.   
 
Go ahead, be a fan of social services, be a drain on your family, friends and government...at least you didn&#039;t have to work for what you have.  Tell me, when you wake up and go to shave...when you look in the mirror are you proud of the man you see staring back at you or are you ashamed of the lemming you&#039;ve become? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, teachers know how much they&#039;re going to get paid when they decide to go that route for a career.  </p>
<p>Secondly, don&#039;t give me this crap about CEOs making 300k is unfair.  In a large corporation thousands of people depend on that CEO to make sure there is a job there for them when they wake up each morning.  Not only the employees, but the investors as well.  Do me a favor, take an economics class and then tell me that the government redistributing wealth is a good idea.  </p>
<p>Jon, your post about schooling is right along the lines of what I was talking about before.  God forbid that someone has to WORK HARD to get what they want out of life.  You want the American Dream, but are unwilling to put forth the required effort to attain it.  Stop being lazy and go improve yourself is what you should do.  Don&#039;t complain because someone has to study hard to make good grades.  You bring up ivy league schools in your post too.  They CAN make it to ivy league schools, that isn&#039;t enough though&#8230;they shouldn&#039;t have to work hard there&#8230;</p>
<p>Look man, your logic is flawed in that you want everyone to have everything they want without having to work for it.  It&#039;s not that simple and it shouldn&#039;t be.  If you&#039;re handed something chances are good you won&#039;t appreciate it as much as if you worked for it.  For me, the feeling of accomplishment when I achieve a goal is almost as good as the goal itself.  It is unfortunate, but most of the people have forgotten that.  Not to mention giving people something for nothing just makes them depend more on the system.  </p>
<p>Go ahead, be a fan of social services, be a drain on your family, friends and government&#8230;at least you didn&#039;t have to work for what you have.  Tell me, when you wake up and go to shave&#8230;when you look in the mirror are you proud of the man you see staring back at you or are you ashamed of the lemming you&#039;ve become? </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But what can you guys do about it? America chose Obama as president because they thought he was best fit. If I was in your places, I would stop calling people idiots and putting people down because of their opinions and pray that it will all work out in the end. 
 
Those are my two cents, pce ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what can you guys do about it? America chose Obama as president because they thought he was best fit. If I was in your places, I would stop calling people idiots and putting people down because of their opinions and pray that it will all work out in the end.</p>
<p>Those are my two cents, pce </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, you guys are assuming that everyone who is poor are not hard workers. It&#039;s all about what environment you were raised in.  
 
For example, if someone grows up in the Brooklyn or the Bronx (no stereotypes intended). The public educational standard are much lower than public schools in northern jersey. What does that mean? Even though the student earns 4.0&#039;s throughout high school, their chance of getting into an ivy league or high caliber school is still low. And IF they do get into a college, their standards are much harder and will be working their, for a lack of a better word, asses off to keep up with everyone else. Trust me, my roommate from last year was one of them. Once they graduate, they cannot apply for the same jobs as other kids who worked just as hard as he did because of the environment he grew up in. So don&#039;t say that people are poor because they are not hard workers. That is just a dishonorable insult. Vice versa, there are rich people out there who do not work hard. Ex. Paris Hilton. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, you guys are assuming that everyone who is poor are not hard workers. It&#039;s all about what environment you were raised in. </p>
<p>For example, if someone grows up in the Brooklyn or the Bronx (no stereotypes intended). The public educational standard are much lower than public schools in northern jersey. What does that mean? Even though the student earns 4.0&#039;s throughout high school, their chance of getting into an ivy league or high caliber school is still low. And IF they do get into a college, their standards are much harder and will be working their, for a lack of a better word, asses off to keep up with everyone else. Trust me, my roommate from last year was one of them. Once they graduate, they cannot apply for the same jobs as other kids who worked just as hard as he did because of the environment he grew up in. So don&#039;t say that people are poor because they are not hard workers. That is just a dishonorable insult. Vice versa, there are rich people out there who do not work hard. Ex. Paris Hilton. </p>
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		<title>By: spike knows nothing</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey Spike... good luck getting work when the capital gains tax hikes start eating away at the profit margins for large and small businesses and they implement hiring freezes or start firing people outright. i hope you&#039;re the first to go ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Spike&#8230; good luck getting work when the capital gains tax hikes start eating away at the profit margins for large and small businesses and they implement hiring freezes or start firing people outright. i hope you&#039;re the first to go </p>
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		<title>By: Spike_Gerard</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recent STudies show that people making over 250K are 10 times more likely to cheat on there taxes than people who do not. ANd im tired of this we worked hard for our money and now your taking it away bull shit.. Yea true maybe you worked hard one day but a great example of this bull shit is Teachers for Example. 6th grade public school teacher in New York City teaches a class of 35 students from urban areas giving them the gift of education did i mention 35 students gets 28k a year to start CEO douche bag makes 300k a year sitting on his ass pointing fingers getting people to do all his work while he makes 500% more than his own employees. You can afford to chip in so stop bitching and get ready for CHANGE cuz whether you like it or not It is Here chances are all you rich fags will still cheat on your taxes but its a start. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent STudies show that people making over 250K are 10 times more likely to cheat on there taxes than people who do not. ANd im tired of this we worked hard for our money and now your taking it away bull shit.. Yea true maybe you worked hard one day but a great example of this bull shit is Teachers for Example. 6th grade public school teacher in New York City teaches a class of 35 students from urban areas giving them the gift of education did i mention 35 students gets 28k a year to start CEO douche bag makes 300k a year sitting on his ass pointing fingers getting people to do all his work while he makes 500% more than his own employees. You can afford to chip in so stop bitching and get ready for CHANGE cuz whether you like it or not It is Here chances are all you rich fags will still cheat on your taxes but its a start. </p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Bluto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doctor Bluto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your assumption that I am someone that HAS money is actually quite comedic.  I was going to say shallow, maybe presumptuous, but comedic works best.  I take home about $25,000 a year.  Granted, that is over the nations poverty line for a single person ($10,400 is where the government considers someone poor, unless that has changed recently).  But using your McDonald&#039;s employee (he&#039;ll be our Joe the plumber), he makes about $20800 a year (2080 hours if you work 40 hours a week multiplied by 10).  Now that we have some FACTS, lets get to the point.   
 
My money won&#8217;t be touched directly.  What I mean by that is the money that is going to fund all of these socialist programs isn&#8217;t only going to come from the rich, which is 150k or more now.  Oh no no no&#8230;they can&#8217;t just print up money and give it out either, that doesn&#8217;t work.  They will be taking from social security and other money sinks that are there for &#8220;our protection&#8221;.   
 
Also, you really think it is okay to punish someone for being successful in life?  That is what is going to happen.  &#8220;You did well for yourself and your family, but it is time to take care of everyone else in the country, sir.&#8221;  Self reliance.  Get some.   
 
As for those people that work at McDonalds for $10 an hour with a one bedroom apartment and 4 children to feed&#8230;It everyone else&#8217;s job to pay for their poor decisions?  Especially when an economy pack of condoms costs under $20.   
 
There are programs in place already for those that WANT to&#8230;let me say that again&#8230;that WANT to improve their quality of life.  Most DO NOT want to do the work necessary to do that though.   
 
How about you work to feed their kids while I work on having a family of my own. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your assumption that I am someone that HAS money is actually quite comedic.  I was going to say shallow, maybe presumptuous, but comedic works best.  I take home about $25,000 a year.  Granted, that is over the nations poverty line for a single person ($10,400 is where the government considers someone poor, unless that has changed recently).  But using your McDonald&#039;s employee (he&#039;ll be our Joe the plumber), he makes about $20800 a year (2080 hours if you work 40 hours a week multiplied by 10).  Now that we have some FACTS, lets get to the point.  </p>
<p>My money won&rsquo;t be touched directly.  What I mean by that is the money that is going to fund all of these socialist programs isn&rsquo;t only going to come from the rich, which is 150k or more now.  Oh no no no&hellip;they can&rsquo;t just print up money and give it out either, that doesn&rsquo;t work.  They will be taking from social security and other money sinks that are there for &ldquo;our protection&rdquo;.  </p>
<p>Also, you really think it is okay to punish someone for being successful in life?  That is what is going to happen.  &ldquo;You did well for yourself and your family, but it is time to take care of everyone else in the country, sir.&rdquo;  Self reliance.  Get some.  </p>
<p>As for those people that work at McDonalds for $10 an hour with a one bedroom apartment and 4 children to feed&hellip;It everyone else&rsquo;s job to pay for their poor decisions?  Especially when an economy pack of condoms costs under $20.  </p>
<p>There are programs in place already for those that WANT to&hellip;let me say that again&hellip;that WANT to improve their quality of life.  Most DO NOT want to do the work necessary to do that though.  </p>
<p>How about you work to feed their kids while I work on having a family of my own. </p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jon...it WAS 250K...but it has changed down to 150...so do some research.  So yes, more and more people are going to get taxed to help everyone else.  Like people aren&#039;t paying enough as it is?  Give me a break. 
 
This country will realize what it did in a couple years, and let&#039;s just hope it&#039;s fixable.  I&#039;m a nurse, and I can only imagine what universal health care will do to MY job.  It&#039;s not going to be good I can tell you that much.  Not for the nurses, not for the doctors, and sure as hell not for the patients. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jon&#8230;it WAS 250K&#8230;but it has changed down to 150&#8230;so do some research.  So yes, more and more people are going to get taxed to help everyone else.  Like people aren&#039;t paying enough as it is?  Give me a break.</p>
<p>This country will realize what it did in a couple years, and let&#039;s just hope it&#039;s fixable.  I&#039;m a nurse, and I can only imagine what universal health care will do to MY job.  It&#039;s not going to be good I can tell you that much.  Not for the nurses, not for the doctors, and sure as hell not for the patients. </p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anyone who works at mcdonals only making 10$ an hour deserves it. if they didnt work hard in school then why should i care if just trying to &quot;make ends meet&quot;, its thier own fault. And the so called hard work they do is nothing compared to what real hard work is. try law school. you wont probably wont because your a girl but just so you know, law school, is harder and more work in 1 year than most people will do in a lifetime. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone who works at mcdonals only making 10$ an hour deserves it. if they didnt work hard in school then why should i care if just trying to &quot;make ends meet&quot;, its thier own fault. And the so called hard work they do is nothing compared to what real hard work is. try law school. you wont probably wont because your a girl but just so you know, law school, is harder and more work in 1 year than most people will do in a lifetime. </p>
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