Comments on: Pot Calls Kettle, uh…Black: James Dobson vs. Barack Obama

By: Blottsie

Blottsie — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:09:16 +0000

KW-
Yeah, and that's why non-Christians think your God is an asshole.

By: KW

KW — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:49:17 +0000

Lori, try these on for size:

1 Corinthians 6:8-10
8 On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1:9-11
9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers

10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching,

11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:24:05 +0000

I don't think eating shellfish is an abomination. As far as stoning children for straying from their faith…it sure would be a lonely world. Part of the human condition is the lack of faith. Hell, if we actually practiced faith, we surely wouldn't worry much about what either of these guys said to whoever. Instead, We would trust that everything is as it should be and would probably get a whole lot more done. I guess I'll thank God for my lack of faith, otherwise, I would actually be doing my work right now.

By: lori

lori — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:11:44 +0000

Jesus repeatedly asked his followers to take a vow of poverty, in addition to loving our neighbor, welcoming the stranger, not judging others, and never, ever using violence against another person.

I'd say it's a pretty safe guess that spending your entire career railing against gay people wasn't really what Jesus had in mind.

By: WTF?

WTF? — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:58:57 +0000

Matt,
You don't even know what you're talking about, do you?

It's impossible that you have any idea of the Bible's historical context during which it was written and its contemporary application while making the arguments you're making.
But besides all that, no matter how many times the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong, it says dozens more times that giving away all that you have to the poor, helping your fellow man– that these are the pathway to Heaven. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with "those who are unwilling to care for themselves." And the spite in your tone with that statement shows your true greedy colors.

Empathy, my friend, should be your next big acquisition; without it, eternal afterlife shall feel as such.

By: Blottsie

Blottsie — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:27:09 +0000

Good point, Mr. Goering…And I would also add that Dobson is a douchebag, why defend his dumbass??

By: Benjamin Michael Goe

Benjamin Michael Goe — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:55:02 +0000

Interesting. I especially enjoyed the first angsty comment.

Anyhow, I suggest that both previously-mentioned commenter and Andrew (the poster) watch Barack's full speech. Luckily, I bookmarked it not too long ago, here's a link: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid3… .

I was amazed at the insight he showed when I first listened to it. I think the controversial quote referenced by Dobson was taken somewhat out of context, as it was not at all the main point of the speech.

I don't think the speech served any nefarious purpose, just to outline his views on faith and its role in politics. He takes an extremely legitimate and correct pluralistic stance towards the issue. I definitely disagree that he only made this rather lengthy speech TWO YEARS AGO to 'appeal to the religious.'

By: Raf

Raf — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:53:30 +0000

^Someone forgot to read about half the article^

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:41:55 +0000

First of all, Dobson is not a member of the "prosperity gospel" movement which preaches that God will make you rich if you just believe enough. To put him in the same camp as those people is a disgrace. Second of all, Leviticus is not the only passage in the Bible that discusses the immorality of homosexuality. It is found in the New Testament numerous times, and never ok's it. Jubilee is more of a discussion of how members of the early Church shared their possessions and wealth with those who did not have in order to spread the Church over lands that otherwise would not have been reached. It did not intend to promote over-taxation to force people to care for those who are unwilling to care for themselves. However, the Church has again and again been at the front of the charity movement, doing all they can in order to provide for the basic needs of those who need help. Obama is refusing to take the Bible in its whole and deciding that he is going to pick the sections that help make his cause, and he is doing this so that he can try to court the vote of the religious. Dobson isn't trying to get anyone's votes, he is only repeating what he has often repeated, and only preaching what he has always preached. Obama trying to appeal to the religious in order to gain votes, while continuing to violate important parts of the Bible, such as those that would say abortion is wrong, is dispicable.