If there’s one thing worse than misguided emo kids whining about the world, it’s ‘punk’ kids getting all aggro on them. Sure, in my utmost fantasies I pack all the crybabies into a stretch Chevy Astro Van, pop GWAR in the cassette player and drive it off a cliff – but in the real world I just roll my eyes, go on with life and maintain my superiority complex, like any good hater.
They do things different in Mexico, though.
In Tijuana, there are actual RIOTS going on over alignments with certain cliques, where emo kids, goths, punks and indie kids are beating each other to a bloody pulp.
Before I go on a rant, this is serious stuff and should be stopped. Violence leads to more violence. With that said, let the games begin.
First off, let’s air out the obvious truth for those that need to hear it: EMO, GOTH, PUNK AND INDIE ARE BASICALLY THE SAME THING. This is an irrefutable fact; anybody that disagrees simply doesn’t understand how asinine it is to consider any group of over-emotional self-outcasts anything less than angsty teenage pricks, boiled down to the same raw elements. The differences are so subtle between them that I’m willing to bet over 75% of the kids are kicking the sh*t out of their own ‘kind.’
I can say with utmost confidence that almost every person who considers themselves any of these tags, no matter what their age, are disillusioned and lost human beings, born without personalities.
This especially goes to any ‘punk’ who labels themselves such: punk ended the exact moment the term was created. Punk was a miscarriage, ladies and gents. Any collective group that proudly wears their coined namesake like it’s their actual culture – of which most have disowned in favor of joining the ranks of identical, trail-following twins – are liars in dire need of a reality check.
To be down for a cause is honorable; rallying against irrelevant matters (“you’re not as ‘punk’ as me – DIE!”) is for the wannabe types who have been mentally paralyzed since Chris Carrabba screamed infidelities to jaded, lost boys and girls incapable of handling that little thing the rest of us called life.
And don’t give me that “I don’t understand what it’s all about” copout. This isn’t a pissing contest. But if it was a contest, I would say, “You, sirs and madams, clearly have no f***ing clue about anything you have blindly aligned yourself with, and should really study up on the culture you claim is oh-so important to you before reducing it to a f***ing t-shirt and vehicle to make yourself feel important.”
(Note: if you’re a guy/gal who live their life within the fashions of the aforementioned without resorting to aimless hatred and self-absorbed ‘look at me’ ego-stroking, you are not only exempt, but rad as f*** and a rare breed. Keep on keeping on, much love and respect.)



A. says:
Mon, 31st Mar 2008 2:11 pm
What do you expect from a bunch of young beaners. All of this generation and the ones right before them are worthless druggies, as I am sure the babies they are having will be. What do we do here? Well…we say don’t build a wall let them come on over and screw up the USA too. Our Government is who to blame when all this crap starts taking over in the US. It already is in Texas. How do I know? I live in it. SHUT DOWN THE BORDER!!!!
Amy says:
Mon, 31st Mar 2008 2:23 pm
You’re right, teenage Goth kids are emo kids with a little more vampirism and necrophilia in their tastes. Adult Goths, the true original goths, are actually based more on a lifestyle around classic literature and music wheras kindergoths (the teenage goths) use it as an excuse to cry about why death is better. And Emo and Indie are just the same.
Derek says:
Fri, 11th Apr 2008 2:55 pm
There is a difference between “emo” and “scene,” get your facts straight. “Emo” is a type of music. “Scene” is a type of fashion, and in some cases can look similar to “goth.”
Emo is punk rock.
Scene is flamboyance.
Derek says:
Fri, 11th Apr 2008 3:10 pm
For an article that’s suppose to be informative, you have essentially misguided your readers. I think a little more research in Punk 101 might have avoided this train wreck of supposed facts. Firstly, by your definition of “emo,” Whitney Houstin and Creed are emo. They are both emotional, are they not? In fact, all music is emotional, to some degree. You’re missing the bigger picture. “Emo” was, and has always been, a style of DIY hardcore punk rock, coined in the mid-80s, and still continues to some extent today.
Sunny Day Real Estate didn’t master the sound either. They were nothing but an indie-rock band (don’t get me wrong, they were amazing) with post-hardcore tendencies. That goes the same with the rest of the bands you mentioned, with the exception of Rites of Spring and Nation of Ulysses, who were both part of the original scene. Emo isn’t just melodic rock with loud-to-soft tendencies either. Nor is it usually sad and whiney. Emo is emotionally charged, but very angry and raw, as you can hear in recordings from bands like Hoover, Shotmaker, Indian Summer, etc…
Many indie bands may have certainly taken influence from emo (although I’m betting Fugazi should probably be given the most credit for the “second wave indiemo.”), but their sound and association is far from the original style and ethics. You have either ignored, or haven’t done the research on the evolution of the original style, which still exists in many screamo bands today (Ampere, La Quiete, Envy). Oh, and lastly, “post-rock” actually WAS around in 1994, believe it or not. Ever heard of a little band called Slint?
Derek says:
Fri, 11th Apr 2008 3:11 pm
ignore the second comment i made, which was suppose to be directed at another pseudo-informative article on emo.
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